096-3

Date: 
Jul 08, 1963
Participants: 
President Kennedy, Senator Hubert Humphrey, Senator Wayne Morse, Senator Lister Hill, Senator Pat McNamara, Senator Warren Magnuson, Congressman Carl Albert, Congressman Carl Perkins, Congressman Phil Landron, Congressman Oren Harris
Topic/s: 
RAILROAD WORK RULES DISPUTE
Listen: 


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JOHN F. KENNEDY LIBRARY PRESIDENTIAL RECORDING LOG TAPE 96: NUCLEAR TEST BAN TREATY; VIETNAM, LAOS, INDONESIA, TEST BAN; RAILROAD WORK RULES DISPUTE; NUCLEAR TEST BAN TREATY; CIVIL RIGHTS Released 8/2007 7/3/63, 7/4/63, 7/8/63, 7/9/63 197 minutes Tape Quality: Average Status: Declassified in Part: 11 excisions totaling 3 minutes 10 seconds have been removed in accordance with Section 3.4 (b) (1), (3) of Executive Order 12958. One excision totaling 35 seconds have been removed in accordance with the donor’s deed of gift. Nuclear Test Ban Treaty Negotiations: This 7/3/63 meeting takes place in the late afternoon (another meeting had taken place earlier in the day). The main topic of conversation is Averell Harriman’s upcoming mission to Moscow on the test ban treaty and how these negotiations would or could affect relationships between the United States and Germany / Adenauer, France / DeGaulle and with the United Kingdom / Macmillan. Possible letters from President Kennedy to Adenauer are also discussed. Vietnam, Laos, Indonesia and Brazil, Nuclear test ban negotiations: This 7/4/63 White House off-the-record meeting’s main focal point is an extensive discussion on the situation in Vietnam. This meeting takes place not long after a Buddhist monk burned himself to death as a protest against the government of Vietnam’s relationship with the Buddhists—and the recent Buddhist demonstrations. The discussion of the possibility of a coup in Vietnam and differing staff assessments of that prediction are also presented. As the meeting nears its end, the discussion includes other areas such as Laos, Indonesia, Brazil, and again Harriman’s upcoming mission to Moscow on the test ban Treaty and specific aspects of the negotiations. Railroad work rules dispute meeting with Congressional Leaders: This 7/8/63 meeting with member of Congress discuss the ongoing labor situation with railroad workers. Please note that this meeting was opened in November of 1985 as part of the Railroad Works Dispute tape release. (At meeting’s end, the tape cuts in and out several times and office noises-hallway conversations continue for about 5 minutes.) Railroad work rules dispute: This 7/9/63 meeting with Labor Leaders discuss the ongoing labor situation with railroad workers. The meeting begins with the President reading the statement released from the White House of that day, published in the Public Papers, urging railroad management and union leaders to arbitrate their dispute. Please note that this meeting was opened in November of 1985 as part of the Railroad Works Dispute tape release. (At meeting’s end, there are office noises and hallway conversations for about 10 minutes.) 133
Nuclear test ban negotiations: There are two 7/9/63 meetings in this sequence on the test ban negotiations, specifically Averell Harriman’s upcoming mission to Moscow. The first is the larger NSC meeting in the Cabinet Room, while the second meeting takes place in the Oval Office immediately following the NSC meeting. The second meeting discusses in detail the issues the Administration is having with Congress and the Joint Chiefs concerning the Test Ban. (After the Oval Office meeting concludes, there is approximately 10 minutes of hallway conversations and drilling sounds.) Civil rights: This civil rights meeting on 7/9/63 takes place immediately after the previous meeting and discusses several civil rights situations taking place in several cities. Please note that this meeting was opened in July of 1984 as part of the Civil Rights 1963 tape release. Also note that the discussions are very difficult to hear. (After the Civil Rights meeting ends, the remainder of Reel 3, about 30 minutes, is simply of office noises and drilling sounds.) Participants Listing: Nuclear Test Ban Treaty Negotiations: President Kennedy; Secretary of State Dean Rusk; Under Secretary of State George Ball; Averell Harriman Undersecretary of State; Assistant Secretary of State William Tyler; Military Representative of the President ; Maxwell Taylor; Director of ACDA William Foster; Special Assistant to the President Jerome Weisner; Deputy Special Assistant to the President Carl Kaysen; Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense John McNaughton; Director of the CIA John McCone; Ambassador at Large Llewellyn Thompson; Defense Secretary Robert McNamara; Assistant Secretary of Defense Paul Nitze; Assistant Director of ACDA Adrian Fisher; Special Assistant to the President McGeorge Bundy. Vietnam, Laos, Indonesia and Brazil, Nuclear test ban negotiations: President Kennedy; Under Secretary of State George Ball; Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Averell Harriman; Special Assistant to the President McGeorge Bundy; Assistant Secretary of State Roger Hilsman; Member of the National Security Council Michael Forrestal. Railroad work rules dispute meeting with Congressional Leaders: President Kennedy, Senator Hubert Humphrey, Senator Wayne Morse, Senator Lister Hill, Senator Pat McNamara, Senator Warren Magnuson, Congressman Carl Albert, Congressman Carl Perkins, Congressman Phil Landron, Congressman Oren Harris Railroad work rules dispute: President Kennedy, Secretary of Labor Willard Wirtz; Labor leader: James Reynolds, Louis Wagner, H.E. Gilbert, Roy Davidson, Neil Speirs, J.E. Wolfe, E.L. Hallamn, David Swit, Louis Corsi, Robert Perkins, Richard Murway, Joseph Judge, Frances O’Neill, John Gaherin, C.A. MacRae Nuclear test ban negotiations: President Kennedy; Vice President Lyndon Johnson; William Foster, Director, ACDA; Adrian Fisher, Assistant Director, ACDA; Glenn Seaborg, Chairman, Atomic Energy Commission; Attorney General Robert Kennedy; CIA Director John McCone; 134
Defense Secretary Robert McNamara, Special Assistant to the President Jerome Weisner; Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense John McNaughton; Military Representative of the President Maxwell Taylor; Member of the NSC Edward McDermott; Secretary of State Dean Rusk; Under Secretary of State George Ball; Undersecretary of State Averell Harriman, Ambassador at Large Llewellyn Thompson; Assistant Secretary of State William Tyler; Secretary of the Treasury Douglas Dillon; Deputy Director of the USIA Donald Wilson; Special Assistant to the President McGeorge Bundy; Assistant Secretary of Defense Paul Nitze; Deputy Special Assistant to the President Carl Kaysen; Executive Director of the NSC Bromley Smith. Nuclear Test Ban negotiations (Oval Office): President Kennedy; Vice President Lyndon Johnson; Defense Secretary Robert McNamara; Military Representative of the President Maxwell Taylor Civil rights: President Kennedy, Vice President Lyndon Johnson; Defense Secretary Robert McNamara Tape 96 7/3/63, 7/4/63, 7/8/63, 7/9/63 3 CD’s….$18.00
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