Richard Nixon, Homer Ferguson
White House Telephone
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President Nixon: Hello?
White House Operator: Judge Ferguson for you, sir.1
President Nixon: Yeah. . . . Hello?
Homer Ferguson: Richard?
President Nixon: Yes. How are you?
Ferguson: Homer Ferguson.
President Nixon: Yes sir, Homer. How are you?
Ferguson: I don’t mean to bother you.
President Nixon: That’s all right. It’s all right.
Ferguson: One thing I put the call in after you had made that talk the other night, and I wanted to tell you how excellent it was.
President Nixon: Oh, well, thank you very much. Thank you, yes.
Ferguson: And all of these to the press, I think have been great.
President Nixon: Well, thank you. Thank you.
Ferguson: And, now, I wanted to again call your attention to Cobbs as a judge.
President Nixon: Oh, yes, the man you left your—
Ferguson: In Virginia.
President Nixon: Yes.
Ferguson: He’s an excellent lawyer, as I explained to you.
President Nixon: Right, right.
Ferguson: If you want any further news I’d be very glad—
President Nixon: Right.
Ferguson: —to do it.
President Nixon: Right. I got it and I’ve . . . In fact I’ve talked to Mitchell∇ about it too.2
President Nixon: OK—
Ferguson: Now, I’ve . . . and I know that Byrd3 has endorsed him and Holton4—
President Nixon: Yeah.
Ferguson: —has endorsed him.
President Nixon: Uh-huh, uh-huh.
Ferguson: Now, another thing is, I’m serving as a senior judge, you know, the law provides for that.
President Nixon: Yes, sir.
Ferguson: And I wanted you to know that, and it’s perfectly all right. I . . . I’ll continue until your new man goes on.
President Nixon: Oh, great. Good. Good.
Ferguson: So that—
President Nixon: And I’ll . . . Have you talked to Mitchell yourself about the other fellow?
Ferguson: No. Should I do that?
President Nixon: I wish you would. It—
Ferguson: I’ll do it.
President Nixon: Give John a call, John Mitchell—
President Nixon: —and just say you and I were chatting and I asked you to call him about it.
Ferguson: Yeah, I’ll do that.
President Nixon: And because he . . . then when he comes in I won’t see him . . . see, I’m going out to Tulsa in the morning—
Ferguson: Yeah, well, I’ll see you—
President Nixon: —but I won’t see him. Just give Mitchell a talk—
Ferguson: I’ll see you Monday then.
President Nixon: —call. Swell.
Ferguson: Now, I’m awfully sorry to bother you—
President Nixon: You’re not . . . You didn’t bother me.
Ferguson: —I know how busy you are, but—
President Nixon: That’s all right. It’s alright.
Ferguson: —but I did want you to know—
President Nixon: Sure.
Ferguson: —that as far as me continuing as a—
President Nixon: Mm-hmm.
Ferguson: —senior judge, it was perfectly all right.
President Nixon: Great. Great. Well, I appreciate that, and I—
Ferguson: And as I told you, I hope that someday, that soon, after I’m not a senior judge, that I might fit in somewhere else.
President Nixon: Right. Right. Well, you’re still full of beans [laughing].
Ferguson: [laughing] Well, I—
President Nixon: That’s right. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
Ferguson: [laughing] You know I fear retirement.
President Nixon: Yeah. I don’t blame you a bit, anyway.
President Nixon: You know, when people get to the point they don’t have anything left, they don’t fear it—
President Nixon: —but when you’ve got something left.
Ferguson: —I know that you and I are—
President Nixon: Yeah. Yeah.
Ferguson: —eager to work—
President Nixon: That’s right.
Ferguson: —and therefore, I wanted you to know that.
President Nixon: Good. Good.
Ferguson: So senior—
President Nixon: Well . . .
Ferguson: —judge just fits in fine.
President Nixon: Good.
Ferguson: All right. Thank you.
President Nixon: OK. Bye. Bye.