Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford
White House Telephone
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Operator: Mr. President, [House Minority Leader] Congressman Gerald Ford∇ [R-Michigan].
President Nixon: Yeah, wait just a--”
Gerald Ford: Hello.
President Nixon: Hello.
Ford: Mr. President?
President Nixon: Jerry, I understand it's pretty close, huh?
Ford: We won in a recorded teller vote 201 to 195.1
President Nixon: Yeah, mm-hmm.
Ford: And it's going to be just as close on the next vote.
President Nixon: You won't--”you aren't going to lose any, though, out of your--”
Ford: I think we're going to win.
President Nixon: You aren't going to lose any of your 201. The point is, I suppose, that the others are just frantic, huh?
Ford: Yeah, and--”
President Nixon: But do you--”don't you have, I hope, a couple that you saved out, haven't you?
President Nixon: Have you?
President Nixon: Good. Save them out, save them out.
Ford: If we do win, I've got about ten fellows, that a letter from you would be, you know--”
President Nixon: Well. Yep.
Ford:--”a real help.
President Nixon: Well, well, let me say that as soon as the vote occurs, you call me.
President Nixon: What time will it occur?
Ford: Oh, in another hour.
President Nixon: In an hour?
Ford: We'll be through with it in another, because we have to finish the bill and then we have a motion to recommit, and then we have a--”then we'll have a separate--”well, we'll have a separate vote on the amendment, a recorded vote. So it'll be an hour before we get the result, that's what I meant to say.
President Nixon: Yeah. As soon as you get the result, let me know, will you?
Ford: I sure will, Mr. President.
President Nixon: Fine. Fine. [chuckling] Good luck.
Ford: We got some guys that stood up, believe me.
President Nixon: Did you?
Ford: You're damn right.
President Nixon: Yeah, have you got any--”you sure you got two or three in your pocket?
President Nixon: That will shift?
Ford: At least they've told us that . . . [chuckles].
President Nixon: Well, by God, make them go it.
Ford: We will.
President Nixon: Tell them everything counts, now, they're this close, and let's win it.
Ford: All right.
President Nixon: Fine, Jerry.
Ford: OK, thank you for calling, M--”