619-028

Date: 
Tuesday, November 16, 1971 - 12:33pm - 1:59pm
Participants: 
Richard Nixon, Henry Kissinger, Bob Haldeman, Ronald Ziegler
Location: 
Oval Office
Listen: 


The President met with Chief of Staff H.R. "Bob" Haldeman and National Security Adviser Henry A. Kissinger.

[85:35 on 619B]

President Nixon: Got to have [Governor Ronald W.] Reagan [R-California] in tomorrow morning. I want to tell you [unclear]--

Henry A. Kissinger: I'm having breakfast with him.

President Nixon: Jesus Christ, we're--well, it's worth it. It's worth it.

H.R. "Bob" Haldeman: No, that's--every power there is, properly spent.

President Nixon: Henry, you're the important one there. You're the--tell him how tough Amchitka was, that the President got--and exaggerate. Tell him the mail on Amchitka, which it was, was a--

Haldeman: You don't have to exaggerate.

President Nixon: --thousand to one.

Kissinger: Well, hell--

President Nixon: A thousand to one that we received.

Kissinger: I can testify to the fact--

Haldeman: To 50 for--

President Nixon: [Unclear] and 50 for it.

Kissinger: You said to me that if--unless--that if the Supreme Court voted against it, you'd go ahead anyway, unless it were unanimous.

President Nixon: That's right. I decided that morning.

Kissinger: You said that to me that morning.

President Nixon: Of course, because the Supreme Court had no goddamn right to determine this. And I was perfectly prepared to go through, and all hell would've broken loose, and I would have done it.

Kissinger: Of course, these goddamn scientists, not one has now admitted that there was any mistake.

President Nixon: That's right.

Haldeman: No, but the press has. That's one where we did get the point--

President Nixon: Has the press?

Haldeman: Yes, there's been quite a bit written, about the, "Ho, ho, ho, what happened to the all the smart-asses who said that the world is coming to an end?"

Kissinger: Yeah.

Haldeman: There's been a lot of gloating.

[Discussion turns to the Middle East.]

Original tape courtesy of the Nixon Library. This transcript is a working draft. Please let us know if you find important errors.